UPDATE 17/8:
I could have sworn that less than 10 people reads this blog which I'd started to remind myself of things/incidences which transpired during the kids chess events (Pre & Post) + to get rid of boredom whilst the kids are playing...for health reasons & to stop my blood from boiling, I stopped watching the cHEss pIRATE play quite some time back & would normally just watch hAnA play.
(Digressing Slightly: latest fiasco was during the 8th AM Bank CC - whilst fooling around w OZP and stacking their pieces to compare who has the highest stack, the CP accidentally touched a chess piece & the opponent claimed "touch move". Moving the 'touched' piece essentially means losing his game. Good thing is I did not watch the move & was only briefed by the CP as to what had happened - Otherwise, I'm sure with 'boiling' blood I would have just walked to his board, ignore the arbiter(s) and smacked the CP there and then! )
Back to counting viewers/readers....there's family on my side(3), on the Islamic Estate Planner-IEP side(1), a friend in Jakarta and JB respectively, perhaps Z & H....which totals 8pax. Hence, I could safely assume that I can add the 9th pax today when I received from LTP the following sms:-
SMS 1:
"...En.Amirul, I believe u have some misconceptions on how to get the first Fide elorating and its calculation method.
1. A person elo rating can be counted only if a person had played at least 3 Fide rated players in one event.
(NOT accumulate game by game).
2. Based on (1), the rating can be added up from qualified event to get avrg rating.
(SO, meet either 1 or 2 Fide rated player/event regardless of result, the rating will NOT be tabulated in calculation)
3. Minimum must have 9 games
e.g. 3 games x 3 events.
Btw, getting a Fide rating is based on points deviation from actual points scored against median score points of total games, then only apply formula.
e.g. say, total rating from 10 games (3events) are 17,000. So, avrg is 1,700.
IF, u scored 5pts, then your elo 1700.
IF, scored 2pts - means 3pts below median, then is -3*Z
( where Z is not a fix figure, refer to FIDE website for chart ) with an elo rating around 1200.
IF, a person score 2pts from 14games with same avrg. 1700, then he fails to meet the min.
rating ceiling because ( 1700 - 5* Z ) < 1000.
For your info,every 1 pt above median just add 30 rating points aka "K factor"
( A difft. formula again)
Once you get the first elo rating, the formula apply is different again.
How it works? The same formula to count NR fluctuation is applied now.
Hope you have a better now.
Out of curiousity, the explanation you put up in your article is based on feedback from other parents or your own research...."
SMS 2:
" Btw, there is still other regulation like the number of rated games count of a person can be started counting from the first event that score at least a pt from MIN. 3 rated games.
Thereafter, any pt score from min 3 games will be added into calculation despite scoring 0pt from 3 games. "
SMS 3:
DISCLAIMER - "...However, do take note that what I explained is still NOT representing 100% of the whole calculation mechanism which is to technical to go into, but the info is sufficient for a public knowledge "
(ALL 3 SMS sent by LTP on 17 Aug.2013, reproduced with LTP's permission)
In my defense to LTP's question in the SMS 1, I informed him that I got the numbers by going to FIDE's website and started to key-in some numbers. Refer HERE.
The strange thing however is when I double check today, the "system" deducts "800" instead of "700" previously.....emmmm, wonder why!?
>>>>>>>
hAnA completed her 5th FIDE-rated classical competition with the conclusion of the 8th AM Bank Chess Challenge at Cititel-KL.
RESULTS:-
(1) 2.5pts. 2012, Nf6 Challenger. Note: 1 free point due to opponent's NO SHOW
(2) 3.0pts. 2012, 4th Penang Heritage City International C.C. - Challenger
(3) 3.0pts. 2012, 5th National Juniors Chess Championship (NJCC)
(4) 2.0pts. 2013, DCC Golden Special. Note: 1pt fm BYE. RESULTS
(5) 2.5pts 2013, 8th AM Bank Chess Challenge RESULTS
Her points total seemed to be in the range of 2-3points per event.
STATISTICS (45 Rounds):-
8 WINS
6 DRAWS
29 losses
1 BYE
1 FORFEIT - No Show
(28.89%)
After playing 2 games against FIDE-rated players from Bangladesh, hAnA's FIDE average should rise to AT LEAST 997(997.35714) from 969 i.e. 1902(Round 4) + 1832(Round 1) + 20,029 / 14pax +(-700). To get her FIDE-rating, hAnA needs to get a result (either win or draw) in her next game against a FIDE-rated or, in the event of a loss the opponent should be rated at least 1738.
With today's event conclusion, the cHEss pIRATE completed his 4th FIDE-rated classical event.
(1) 2.0pts 2012, 4th Penang Heritage City International CC - Challenger
(2) 1.0pt 2012, 5th NJCC
(3) 2.5pts 2013, DCC Golden Special. Note 1pt fm Bye. RESULTS
(4) 2.5pts 2013, 8th AM Bank Chess Challenge. RESULTS
STATISTICS (36 Rounds):-
6 WINS
2 DRAWS
27 losses
1 BYE
(22.22%)
Having had the opportunity to play against ONLY 1 FIDE-rated player from Malaysia, CP needs to play against 2 more FIDE-rated players whilst maintaining his average above 1000 to get a FIDE rating. A favourable result in the next game would ensure his FIDE rating....and allows me to pay less entrance fees for FIDE-rated events.
His present average is 1083 i.e. 1768(Round 1) + 12,492 / 8pax +(- 700).
I could have sworn that less than 10 people reads this blog which I'd started to remind myself of things/incidences which transpired during the kids chess events (Pre & Post) + to get rid of boredom whilst the kids are playing...for health reasons & to stop my blood from boiling, I stopped watching the cHEss pIRATE play quite some time back & would normally just watch hAnA play.
(Digressing Slightly: latest fiasco was during the 8th AM Bank CC - whilst fooling around w OZP and stacking their pieces to compare who has the highest stack, the CP accidentally touched a chess piece & the opponent claimed "touch move". Moving the 'touched' piece essentially means losing his game. Good thing is I did not watch the move & was only briefed by the CP as to what had happened - Otherwise, I'm sure with 'boiling' blood I would have just walked to his board, ignore the arbiter(s) and smacked the CP there and then! )
Back to counting viewers/readers....there's family on my side(3), on the Islamic Estate Planner-IEP side(1), a friend in Jakarta and JB respectively, perhaps Z & H....which totals 8pax. Hence, I could safely assume that I can add the 9th pax today when I received from LTP the following sms:-
SMS 1:
"...En.Amirul, I believe u have some misconceptions on how to get the first Fide elorating and its calculation method.
1. A person elo rating can be counted only if a person had played at least 3 Fide rated players in one event.
(NOT accumulate game by game).
2. Based on (1), the rating can be added up from qualified event to get avrg rating.
(SO, meet either 1 or 2 Fide rated player/event regardless of result, the rating will NOT be tabulated in calculation)
3. Minimum must have 9 games
e.g. 3 games x 3 events.
Btw, getting a Fide rating is based on points deviation from actual points scored against median score points of total games, then only apply formula.
e.g. say, total rating from 10 games (3events) are 17,000. So, avrg is 1,700.
IF, u scored 5pts, then your elo 1700.
IF, scored 2pts - means 3pts below median, then is -3*Z
( where Z is not a fix figure, refer to FIDE website for chart ) with an elo rating around 1200.
IF, a person score 2pts from 14games with same avrg. 1700, then he fails to meet the min.
rating ceiling because ( 1700 - 5* Z ) < 1000.
For your info,every 1 pt above median just add 30 rating points aka "K factor"
( A difft. formula again)
Once you get the first elo rating, the formula apply is different again.
How it works? The same formula to count NR fluctuation is applied now.
Hope you have a better now.
Out of curiousity, the explanation you put up in your article is based on feedback from other parents or your own research...."
SMS 2:
" Btw, there is still other regulation like the number of rated games count of a person can be started counting from the first event that score at least a pt from MIN. 3 rated games.
Thereafter, any pt score from min 3 games will be added into calculation despite scoring 0pt from 3 games. "
SMS 3:
DISCLAIMER - "...However, do take note that what I explained is still NOT representing 100% of the whole calculation mechanism which is to technical to go into, but the info is sufficient for a public knowledge "
(ALL 3 SMS sent by LTP on 17 Aug.2013, reproduced with LTP's permission)
In my defense to LTP's question in the SMS 1, I informed him that I got the numbers by going to FIDE's website and started to key-in some numbers. Refer HERE.
The strange thing however is when I double check today, the "system" deducts "800" instead of "700" previously.....emmmm, wonder why!?
>>>>>>>
hAnA completed her 5th FIDE-rated classical competition with the conclusion of the 8th AM Bank Chess Challenge at Cititel-KL.
RESULTS:-
(1) 2.5pts. 2012, Nf6 Challenger. Note: 1 free point due to opponent's NO SHOW
(2) 3.0pts. 2012, 4th Penang Heritage City International C.C. - Challenger
(3) 3.0pts. 2012, 5th National Juniors Chess Championship (NJCC)
(4) 2.0pts. 2013, DCC Golden Special. Note: 1pt fm BYE. RESULTS
(5) 2.5pts 2013, 8th AM Bank Chess Challenge RESULTS
Her points total seemed to be in the range of 2-3points per event.
STATISTICS (45 Rounds):-
8 WINS
6 DRAWS
29 losses
1 BYE
1 FORFEIT - No Show
(28.89%)
After playing 2 games against FIDE-rated players from Bangladesh, hAnA's FIDE average should rise to AT LEAST 997(997.35714) from 969 i.e. 1902(Round 4) + 1832(Round 1) + 20,029 / 14pax +(-700). To get her FIDE-rating, hAnA needs to get a result (either win or draw) in her next game against a FIDE-rated or, in the event of a loss the opponent should be rated at least 1738.
With today's event conclusion, the cHEss pIRATE completed his 4th FIDE-rated classical event.
(1) 2.0pts 2012, 4th Penang Heritage City International CC - Challenger
(2) 1.0pt 2012, 5th NJCC
(3) 2.5pts 2013, DCC Golden Special. Note 1pt fm Bye. RESULTS
(4) 2.5pts 2013, 8th AM Bank Chess Challenge. RESULTS
STATISTICS (36 Rounds):-
6 WINS
2 DRAWS
27 losses
1 BYE
(22.22%)
Having had the opportunity to play against ONLY 1 FIDE-rated player from Malaysia, CP needs to play against 2 more FIDE-rated players whilst maintaining his average above 1000 to get a FIDE rating. A favourable result in the next game would ensure his FIDE rating....and allows me to pay less entrance fees for FIDE-rated events.
His present average is 1083 i.e. 1768(Round 1) + 12,492 / 8pax +(- 700).
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